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		<title>By: matt reg</title>
		<link>http://gregmaclellan.com/blog/basement-sub-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-19733</link>
		<dc:creator>matt reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 22:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a quick question. If I&#039;m using delta fl with tg plywood ontop before laminate do I need to screw the plywood down to the concrete??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a quick question. If I&#8217;m using delta fl with tg plywood ontop before laminate do I need to screw the plywood down to the concrete??</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://gregmaclellan.com/blog/basement-sub-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-19728</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does anyone know if I can install the subfloor and then install the framing on top of the plywood or do you have to frame the room first then the subfloor?  thanks in advance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does anyone know if I can install the subfloor and then install the framing on top of the plywood or do you have to frame the room first then the subfloor?  thanks in advance</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://gregmaclellan.com/blog/basement-sub-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-19709</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ross: I was going to go the same route and use MS but decided to call Delta directly first.  I was told that there is no difference except that FL is made from new material and MS is made from %60 recycled materials. He said it smells bad and that the smell would never go away... if you can live with the smell go for it. I brought a roll of it home and it reaked! I guess that&#039;s why its meant for foundations.  HD carries a product called Platon very similar and comes in rolls 6&#039; x 65.5&#039; Its a foundation wrap and can also be used for floors, it must be made from new materials compared to MS.  I got a good deal on Delta FL that&#039;s why I went with it, next choice would have been Platon.
 

http://www.systemplaton.com/flooring.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross: I was going to go the same route and use MS but decided to call Delta directly first.  I was told that there is no difference except that FL is made from new material and MS is made from %60 recycled materials. He said it smells bad and that the smell would never go away&#8230; if you can live with the smell go for it. I brought a roll of it home and it reaked! I guess that&#8217;s why its meant for foundations.  HD carries a product called Platon very similar and comes in rolls 6&#8242; x 65.5&#8242; Its a foundation wrap and can also be used for floors, it must be made from new materials compared to MS.  I got a good deal on Delta FL that&#8217;s why I went with it, next choice would have been Platon.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.systemplaton.com/flooring.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.systemplaton.com/flooring.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://gregmaclellan.com/blog/basement-sub-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-19690</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 12:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello all... 

I&#039;m not sure if someone mentiond this, but instead of paying the higher cost for a roll of Delta FL, I used Delta MS foundation wrap (its brown in colour).. it was way cheaper than the FL and I couldnt see the difference... I was at the home depot with my friend and while there a Delta rep was also on site... he was pushing the Deltal FL, but we started asking him why FL instead of the much less expensive MS... he also couldnt find an answer for us, even when we took a roll of FL to the building section and placed it up against the MS foundation wrap... both say they will never break down, both provide moisture/water protection, both are non polutting and both are non toxic... the compression ratio is very close as well... save your money, go with the MS... it was a breeze to install...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello all&#8230; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if someone mentiond this, but instead of paying the higher cost for a roll of Delta FL, I used Delta MS foundation wrap (its brown in colour).. it was way cheaper than the FL and I couldnt see the difference&#8230; I was at the home depot with my friend and while there a Delta rep was also on site&#8230; he was pushing the Deltal FL, but we started asking him why FL instead of the much less expensive MS&#8230; he also couldnt find an answer for us, even when we took a roll of FL to the building section and placed it up against the MS foundation wrap&#8230; both say they will never break down, both provide moisture/water protection, both are non polutting and both are non toxic&#8230; the compression ratio is very close as well&#8230; save your money, go with the MS&#8230; it was a breeze to install&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://gregmaclellan.com/blog/basement-sub-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-19679</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 03:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;f laying tile on the woods it sturdy enough to prevent joints from cracking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;f laying tile on the woods it sturdy enough to prevent joints from cracking?</p>
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		<title>By: groogs</title>
		<link>http://gregmaclellan.com/blog/basement-sub-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-19637</link>
		<dc:creator>groogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim: Thanks. I don&#039;t see how framing directly would cause a problem. I put the OSB down and then framed on top of that. This means my bottom plates are just screwed into the OSB, which was pretty easy to do. 

If you were to frame directly on top, you&#039;d need to secure the bottom plate to the slab somehow, and also be careful not to overtighten if using screws as it may compress the deltaFL too much, at worst losing insulation value or causing the floor to be uneven. 

If you&#039;re planning on putting OSB or plywood down, I would just do that first then frame on top. If you&#039;re going to directly finish on top of the deltaFL (eg, with laminate or hardwood), then I don&#039;t see how it would be a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim: Thanks. I don&#8217;t see how framing directly would cause a problem. I put the OSB down and then framed on top of that. This means my bottom plates are just screwed into the OSB, which was pretty easy to do. </p>
<p>If you were to frame directly on top, you&#8217;d need to secure the bottom plate to the slab somehow, and also be careful not to overtighten if using screws as it may compress the deltaFL too much, at worst losing insulation value or causing the floor to be uneven. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re planning on putting OSB or plywood down, I would just do that first then frame on top. If you&#8217;re going to directly finish on top of the deltaFL (eg, with laminate or hardwood), then I don&#8217;t see how it would be a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 03:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Greg,

The floor looks great.  I&#039;ve read that you can frame right on top of the Delta-FL, however I&#039;ve also read on some sites that this is a bad idea. What method did you use/would you suggest?  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Greg,</p>
<p>The floor looks great.  I&#8217;ve read that you can frame right on top of the Delta-FL, however I&#8217;ve also read on some sites that this is a bad idea. What method did you use/would you suggest?  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Basement Floor Tiles</title>
		<link>http://gregmaclellan.com/blog/basement-sub-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-19633</link>
		<dc:creator>Basement Floor Tiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice sub-floor installation. For an easy to install basement floor, you can also use interlocking floor tiles made from impact polypropylene. They have grooves underneath so the tile is raised and it allows for air passage.  It is a faster and cheaper installation option that what you described.  They are many options available in the market and normally sold for a garage floor use.  A quick Google Search will give you many options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice sub-floor installation. For an easy to install basement floor, you can also use interlocking floor tiles made from impact polypropylene. They have grooves underneath so the tile is raised and it allows for air passage.  It is a faster and cheaper installation option that what you described.  They are many options available in the market and normally sold for a garage floor use.  A quick Google Search will give you many options.</p>
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		<title>By: groogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>groogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 17:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John: Because carpet is breathable, it will not trap moisture. Carpet directly on slab works, but it is quite cold on the feet, unless you have insulation underneath your slab (which is unlikely unless your home was built in the last 5-10 years, and even then not everyone does this). 

Rod: I just used tuck tape. I couldn&#039;t find the special &quot;delta FL&quot; tape they were referencing, and didn&#039;t really see how it was any different anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John: Because carpet is breathable, it will not trap moisture. Carpet directly on slab works, but it is quite cold on the feet, unless you have insulation underneath your slab (which is unlikely unless your home was built in the last 5-10 years, and even then not everyone does this). </p>
<p>Rod: I just used tuck tape. I couldn&#8217;t find the special &#8220;delta FL&#8221; tape they were referencing, and didn&#8217;t really see how it was any different anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
		<link>http://gregmaclellan.com/blog/basement-sub-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-19630</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 23:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

did you use special DELTA FL tape for seams between
DELTA sheets or you join them all by Tuck tape ?

Thank you</description>
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<p>did you use special DELTA FL tape for seams between<br />
DELTA sheets or you join them all by Tuck tape ?</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
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